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 11 
 on: February 15, 2011, 06:27:27 am 
Started by LOGIA - Last post by LOGIA
Fat chance in Shaol. The Obama peeps are now officially UNGLUED!--------------
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From www.orlytaitzesq.com
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Great news. Your activism and pressure helped. Eligibility bill passed the first read in the house and went to judiciary committee

Posted on | February 14, 2011 | No Comments

I need your help in checking the rules of your legislature and committees. As this is a new issue, some judiciary committees and rules committees in several states are having a problem in deciding on wording. We need to check the rules in each state, partucularly 14 states, that already filed eligibility bills, can we change the bills and resubmit amended bills to the committees? Is there a mechanism of going to the Supreme Court of the United states to check the definition of the Natural born, in order to assist the states and their judicial committees in drafting bills that are constitutional an passs the Constitutional muster. I wonder, if this can be a way of bringing this issue to the Supreme Court.

Can you help me in researching these issues?

On a a slightly sour note. One of  Obama’s operatives just called me and announced that there is a group o people working on revoking my US citizenship. Good luck with that! Clearly they can’t do it, but the level of insanity of Obama supporters is staggering.

Also, these jerks, Internet hackers deleted all of the categories in my Yahoo address book and half of the e-mails. I wanted to e-mail my parents, my brother and sister in law, see how my nieces are doing, suddenly the e-mails were not there. It is unbelievable, what kind of thugs are supporting this fraud Obama.

 12 
 on: February 04, 2011, 03:26:07 pm 
Started by Nick_A - Last post by Nick_A
His Election by the Electoral College WAS Certified By the House of Representatives.
OK so we have a big procedural problem and a lack of vetting the Facts by the House..  Lets not make it more complex than it already is by making unfounded claims..
Birthers and Anti-Birthers would do well to just stick to the facts and avoid the spurious claims that both sides have made.. THE FACT is that it is up to the House to decide the issue.. and they have done so... by just taking Obama's word for it.
They Certified his Election and He is the President of the USA.
Is he Natural born and eligible to hold the Office as the Constitution requires?   No one knows at this point.... and no one with the Constitutional Authority to question that [only the House of Representatives] has ever officially asked the question.. 
You all are endlessly arguing about things and scenarios that DO NOT MATTER..
If you are truly concerned about the question, you should be asking your Congressman to resolve the matter as it is their Constitutional Responsibility to ensure that only a Natural Born Citizen occupies the Office of President of the USA.
Any other course is a total waste of time.

That is the idea.  Obama was never certified.  We are required to take Obama's word for it. The New Republican congress has both the duty and obligation to certify Obama as eligible to run again in 2012 or declare him ineligible.

If they lack the courage and character to defend the Constitution and instead refuse to do so from cowardice and fear of cries of racism, it will force the creation of the "Birther Party" that will have as its platform the promise to reveal the facts of the matter.  People like me that would be disgusted with Republican cowardice, would vote for the Birther Party candidate for president. The division will most likey assure Obama's victory.

 13 
 on: February 04, 2011, 09:00:15 am 
Started by Black Lion - Last post by Black Lion
The Trouble with Birther Bills
Posted Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:13 AM | By David Weigel

I noted yesterday morning that “birther bills” had been introduced in more states since the start of their new legislatures. A friend pointed out that some of the bills go further than demanding proof of birth in the United States. Here’s one clause from Arizona’s bill:

A sworn statement attesting that the candidate has not held dual or multiple citizenship and that the candidate’s allegiance is solely to the United States of America.

And from Nebraska’s:

Each person who wishes to have his or her name placed on the general election ballot as a candidate for President or Vice President of the United States shall first meet the eligibility requirements of Article II, section 1, of the Constitution of the United States. Such person shall submit an affidavit to the Secretary of State along with supporting documentation as specified in subsections (5) and (6) of this section by September 8 of the year in which the election is scheduled. The affidavit and supporting documentation shall be a public record.

(5) The affidavit shall be sworn or affirmed before a notary public and shall contain statements substantially as follows: I was born a citizen of the United States of America and was subject exclusively to the jurisdiction of the United States of America, owing allegiance to no other country at the time of my birth. On the day I was born, both my birth mother and birth father were citizens of the United States of America.

My emphasis. Both of these items apply specifically to Barack Obama. And both are unconstitutional. Article II, Section I only requires that a president be 35 or older and “a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States.” Birthers argue that because Obama’s father was a Kenyan citizen, he had dual citizenship at birth, and they believe that both of a candidate’s parents need to be U.S. citizens. This just isn’t how the Supreme Court has interpreted the issue. In U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark (1898), the Supreme Court ruled that a child born in America to two Chinese citizens was, himself, Americans.
So birther strategy is evolved, and it might force a lawsuit if a bill like this passes, but it’s the same legal garbage as ever.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/weigel/archive/2011/02/03/the-trouble-with-birther-bills.aspx

 14 
 on: February 04, 2011, 01:06:42 am 
Started by Nick_A - Last post by Ross
His Election by the Electoral College WAS Certified By the House of Representatives.
OK so we have a big procedural problem and a lack of vetting the Facts by the House..  Lets not make it more complex than it already is by making unfounded claims..
Birthers and Anti-Birthers would do well to just stick to the facts and avoid the spurious claims that both sides have made.. THE FACT is that it is up to the House to decide the issue.. and they have done so... by just taking Obama's word for it.
They Certified his Election and He is the President of the USA.
Is he Natural born and eligible to hold the Office as the Constitution requires?   No one knows at this point.... and no one with the Constitutional Authority to question that [only the House of Representatives] has ever officially asked the question.. 
You all are endlessly arguing about things and scenarios that DO NOT MATTER..
If you are truly concerned about the question, you should be asking your Congressman to resolve the matter as it is their Constitutional Responsibility to ensure that only a Natural Born Citizen occupies the Office of President of the USA.
Any other course is a total waste of time.

 15 
 on: February 03, 2011, 03:27:58 pm 
Started by Nick_A - Last post by Nick_A
T.S. Eliot wrote in the preface to Simone Weil's "The Need for Roots:"   "This is one of those books which ought to be studied by the young before their leisure has been lost and their capacity for thought destroyed; books the effect of which, we can only hope, will become apparent in the attitude of mind of another generation."  

The Progressive agenda will do whatever it can to suppress this book and others like it.  This is why I'm posting this basic idea here.  Perhaps some college students writing papers on political philosophy would appreciate exploring it.

Simone asserts that rights can only be assured by the mutual acceptance of obligations.  This mutual acceptance can only be sustained through the help of grace that initiates from above.  Obviously then, the continuance of a free society requires the essential religious influence. Secularism only leads to the struggle for prestige acquired through power and force.

The progressive agenda seeks to substitute the concept of "entitlement" for what Simone describes as "obligations."

I invite all university students to keep the idea alive where you study.  Let others awaken to this normally hidden perspective for the sake of their understanding. Anyhow, consider Simone's words:

The notion of obligations comes before that of rights, which is subordinate and relative to the former. A right is not effectual by itself, but only in relation to the obligation to which it corresponds, the effective exercise of a right springing not from the individual who possesses it, but from other men who consider themselves as being under a certain obligation towards him. Recognition of an obligation makes it effectual. An obligation which goes unrecognized by anybody loses none of the full force of its existence. A right which goes unrecognized by anybody is not worth very much.

It makes nonsense to say that men have, on the one hand, rights, and on the other hand, obligations. Such words only express differences in point of view. The actual relationship between the two is as between object and subject. A man, considered in isolation, only has duties, amongst which are certain duties towards himself. Other men, seen from his point of view, only have rights. He, in his turn, has rights, when seen from the point of view of other men, who recognize that they have obligations towards him. A man left alone in the universe would have no rights whatever, but he would have obligations….”  Simone Weil, The Need for Roots*

 16 
 on: January 29, 2011, 08:59:11 pm 
Started by Nick_A - Last post by Nick_A
As odd as it may seem,Obama was never certified as constituionally eligible nor was anyone required to do so.

http://www.libertynewsonline.com/article_301_29646.php

Maskell told WND he wrote it because so many members of Congress were getting questions from constituents about the issue, and they wanted to know how to respond. It would explain why so many mailed and e-mailed responses to constituents on the issue of eligibility sound just alike.


 

The CRS begins the memo by stating the problem:

"Many of the inquiries have questioned why then-Senator, and now President, Obama has not had to produce an original, so-called 'long' version of a 'birth certificate' from the State of Hawaii, how federal candidates are 'vetted' for qualifications generally, and have asked for an assessment of the various allegations and claims of non-eligibility status."
In other words, senators and members of the House could not explain why nobody ever saw Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate, and they needed a ready answer to give angry constituents who were writing, faxing and telephoning their offices for an answer.

The second full paragraph of the CRS memo must be read in its entirety to understand fully the circumstance that allowed a candidate for whom documentation was concealed from the public to be elected and sworn in as president.

It states:

"Concerning the production or release of an original birth certificate, it should be noted that there is no federal law, regulation, rule, guideline, or requirement that a candidate for federal office produce his or her original birth certificate, or a certified copy of the record of live birth, to any official of the United States government; nor is there a requirement for federal candidates to publicly release such personal record or documentation. Furthermore, there is no specific federal agency or office that 'vets' candidates for federal office as to qualifications or eligibility prior to return."

What the CRS admits is that Obama got a pass from Congress and the federal government as a whole on his birth qualifications under Article 2, Section 1. Nobody in Congress or the federal government sought to look for Obama's certified long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate, because no law or regulation required them to look.

After the document was written, nobody in Congress could claim that Congress or anyone else in the federal government had reviewed Obama's birth certificate or determined Obama was eligible to be president. It simply did not happen.




The question becomes if the Republican congress will have the character and courage to certify Obama or declare him ineligible to run for re-election in 2012?

If they don't, it will invite the formation of the "Birther Party" and ruin the reputation of the Republican Party.
 

 17 
 on: January 29, 2011, 08:17:09 pm 
Started by Black Lion - Last post by LOGIA
No need to be so longwinded!

To be eligible aka OBAMA has to have been BORN on AMERICAN SOIL (JUS SOLIS) with NO COMPETING CITIZENSHIPS, which necessitates AMERICAN FATHER AND MOTHER (Jus Sanguinis)...hence the world "NATURAL"

Having then proven (which HE CANNOT) to be "Natural" and Eligible, he would have to use his LEGAL NAME!

We know point blank he was ADOPTED and named BARRY SOETORO.

He has a SSN under the name BARACK OBAMA

That SSN is NOT HIS OWN but one, it seems, to have been resurrected before Computers and digitalized files from someone born in 1890 in CT.

What we DO HAVE, which is NOT A FLAT OUT LIE, but, rather, a TRUTH, is that AMERICA is in a CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS.

Why do you think THREE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES were NOT AT aka OBAMA's State of the Union Address?

Still DON'T KNOW?

ASK CDR KERCHNER...a little googling or, better yet, IXQUICKing, will give you the answer...

WE have become DISFUNCTIONAL AS A REPUBLIC and MANY GOVTs ALREADY KNOW what AMERICANS all are FINDING OUT!

 18 
 on: January 29, 2011, 08:10:56 pm 
Started by LOGIA - Last post by LOGIA
The trendy leftist diatribes against Mrs Palin will NOT make OBAMA eligible!

Nice try but sorta cheap and Alinsky-esque.

 19 
 on: January 29, 2011, 08:15:33 am 
Started by LOGIA - Last post by LOGIA
Note from ORLY's SITE:


Extremely important, make this Michael Savage clip go viral. We questions, why isn’t military doing something about the usurper in the White House, who is destroying the country

Posted on | January 29, 2011 | No Comments

Michael Savage says Obama is a Usurper what We Have Known for 2+ yrs

I liked a YouTube video — Michael Savage says Obama is a Usurper, questions Military o…

 http://youtu.be/4ZMJ2bUpEVE?

 20 
 on: January 27, 2011, 10:47:55 pm 
Started by Nick_A - Last post by Nick_A
So you base your opinion on a lie perpetuated by WND and now this uk website....Unbelievable....Fact...The governor never said that....He never discussed whether or not he could find anything because that would be against the law....

Black Lion, you have to do some serious soul searching. Do you believe you are worthy of the vote?  If you do, by definition you need the basic facts necessary to cast an educated vote.  The most basic fact is proof of constitutional eligibility.

However if you believe as the progressive agenda believes that you are too stupid to be worthy of the vote,  then you will agree with the progressive agenda that you must blindly believe what they say.  You must be told what to believe and what to do.

That is our difference.  I believe I am worthy of the vote and willing to do my civic duty which means casting an educated vote.  Doing so requires that I see proof of a candidates constitutional eligibility when it is in doubt.

You do not believe yourself worthy so are willing to blindly believe what you ar told. 

When in doubt, just listen to this video.  You will quickly adopt this glazed over look on your face and blindly believe with even more dedication.  It's just not my style.

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/971845/

To each his own

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